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Nevermined: Payment System for the AI Agentic Economy - Don Gossen

Episode Summary

We were joined by Don Gossen, co-founder of Nevermined, to discuss the AI agentic economy and how Nevermined aims to streamline payments through blockchain & AI agnostic Credits.

Episode Notes

Even though current LLM providers usually charge flat rates regardless if the subscriber is a ‘power user’ or not, as AI agents become the workhorses of the online economy, a dynamic AI-to-AI payments infrastructure would prove crucial for proper remuneration. Nevermined proposes a blockchain-agnostic, AI-agnostic credit system, that each builder can use to implement custom pricing strategies for their users. As the next trillion transactions will be mostly performed by AI agents, a universal payment system would help streamline integrations and economic interactions.

Topics covered in this episode:

• Don’s background
• Integrating payment systems in the agentic economy
• Marketplaces vs. payment systems
• AI agentic economy
• Fixed vs. variable pricing strategies
• License tokenization
• Settlement and payment for AI agents
• Estimating price and avoiding overcharges
• Nevermined’s tech stack and integrations
• Value prop
• Nevermined metrics

Episode links:

• Don Gossen on X
• Nevermined on X

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This episode is hosted by Friederike Ernst.